Interesting article. As a user of dietary supplements rather than drugs, whenever possible, I do not like the idea of regulating dietary supplements, such as vitamins and the like. Instead of ibuprophen, for arthritis, I take peptan 500 a purified collegen powder and Danish Rose Hips. The FDA says this is safe and it works in many people.
Here is the article, for you to view.. by the way have you noticed how many drugs are advertised on TV, maybe that is where we need to start, we are building a pill dependent nation. If you have children start counting the ads, drugs, such as and including Viagra, .. this should be the pervue of the doctor and not advertised for the youth of America to try and get,for recreational use.
In Florida there are clinics everywhere for dangerous drugs, and the addiction problem is seriously linked to the easy access in the clinics. They have traced people from Tennessee and Alabama for example driving to the nearest Florida clinic to get oxycontin and then bringing it back to their state and selling it on the street.
The Lethal Impact of Flawed Government
By Bill Faloon
Horrifying problems are being overlooked by a majority of the American citizenry.
We hear almost daily reports of governmental ineptitude and fraud but blindly assume this will not seriously impact us.
Complacency in the face of oppressive and ineffective government is absurd in light of real world examples that exist today.
An extreme illustration can be seen between the per capita income of North and South Korea. If you are fortunate enough to live in South Korea, you enjoy annual per capita income of $26,000, but those confined to North Korea struggle with a meager annual per capita income of $1,700. The North Korean government shoots those who try to flee to China or the South.
It was not always this way. In the early part of last century, North Korea was the prosperous part of the country. It has more natural resources and had greater industrial development. After suffering nearly 60 years under the rule of a centrally directed economic dictatorship, the population is impoverished. Famine is estimated to have killed millions in the mid 1990s and remains a threat today. South Korea, on the other hand, has the 30th highest per capita income in the world.
The difference between South and North Korea is government.
In the United States today, our government is being manipulated at every level by pharmaceutical interests. As Life Extension® adamantly predicated in the 1980s, the inevitable consequence of governmental intrusion into health care is the approval of dangerous drugs, the delay of lifesaving therapies, and the financial insolvency of this nation.
In the coming months, you will be reading inside reports about how prescription drugs are being marked up 100 times over the cost of manufacture. Consumers pay these rip-off government-protected prices through their medical insurance premiums, prescription drug co-pays, or out-of-pocket purchases of FDA-approved medications.
To add insult to the largest consumer fraud in the history of mankind, pharmaceutical interests have successfully lobbied Congress to pass the Medicare Prescription Drug Act of 2007 and the Health Care Reform Act of 2010 that mandates that tax dollars be used to pay these grossly inflated prescription drug prices. Just imagine owning a business where you sell something for 100 times more than it costs to make, and the government guarantees you get paid in full when your customers don’t have the money?
As you will read in this report, pharmaceutical industry greed extends beyond the hundreds of billions of profits guaranteed by your tax dollars. They are also using the government to suppress competition from low-cost dietary supplements by having agencies like the GAO (General Accounting Office) disseminate biased information for the purposes of motivating Congress to pass even more restrictive legislation against what you are allowed to put in your body.
You still have a choice as to whether this country goes the way of North or South Korea. Email your Congressional Representative and two Senators that you will not tolerate them denying your free access to dietary supplements.
Read Life Extension’s report on Pharmaceutical Profit, Big Government and Bias: The Plan to Destroy Access to Dietary Supplements
Saturday, June 5, 2010
Friday, June 4, 2010
Ayn Rand , do you know her, read her!
In 1991, the book-of-the-month club conducted a survey asking people what book had most influenced their lives. The Bible ranked number one and Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged was number two. In 1998, the Modern Library released two lists of the top 100 books of the 20th century. One was compiled from the votes of the Modern Library's Board, consisting of luminaries such as Joyce Carol Oates, Maya Angelou, Edmund Morris, and Salman Rushdie. The two top-ranked books on the Board's list were Ulysses and The Great Gatsby. The other list was based on more than 200,000 votes cast online by anyone who wanted to vote. The top two on that list were Atlas Shrugged (1957) and The Fountainhead (1943). The two novels have had six-figure annual sales for decades, running at a combined 300,000 copies annually during the past ten years. In 2009, Atlas Shrugged alone sold a record 500,000 copies and Rand's four novels combined (the lesser two are We the Living [1936] and Anthem [1938]) sold more than 1,000,000 copies.
zinc reduces inflammation check your CR protein
Good to know , when you get your physical, ask to check your C Reactive protein if you have any degenerative illnesses, it is good to know what it should be and what it is, it appears that Zinc can help
www.lef.org/newsletter/2010/0604_Zinc-Supplementation-Reduces-Inflammation-and-Oxidative-Stress.
www.lef.org/newsletter/2010/0604_Zinc-Supplementation-Reduces-Inflammation-and-Oxidative-Stress.
Thursday, June 3, 2010
Paper dipstick to determine blood type
ScienceDaily (2010-06-03) -- Scientists are reporting development of the first "dipstick" test for instantly determining a person's blood type at a cost of just a few pennies. The test involves placing a drop of blood on a specially treated paper strip. ... > read full article
Off Shore Drilling
Just wondering, as many boaters know, the ocean has various depths, whether close to shore or even miles off shore. If we drilled in shallower water, even closer to shore rather than excessive miles out to sea, would we have been able to handle this disaster quicker, and more efficiently? Maybe this question should be part of the analysis of the off shore drilling regulations. I don't claim to know the answers, however, before we shut down the industry with a ban, we should be considering how to avoid this type of accident and if the distance off shore could be taken into account.
The other question is that rather than have the fisherman, and many men who are out of work, just sit there and do nothing, why not use them BP to build even small berms that would contain the oil along the shorelines that have not been touched yet? People are desparate for jobs, especially in the States that are hit with this pollution. Again, I am not an expert on this, but in addition to a million dollars BP has given for relief to be doled out, why not provide jobs in the clean up which should be going on now with as many workers as possible.
The other question is that rather than have the fisherman, and many men who are out of work, just sit there and do nothing, why not use them BP to build even small berms that would contain the oil along the shorelines that have not been touched yet? People are desparate for jobs, especially in the States that are hit with this pollution. Again, I am not an expert on this, but in addition to a million dollars BP has given for relief to be doled out, why not provide jobs in the clean up which should be going on now with as many workers as possible.
Tuesday, June 1, 2010
Anti aging water to launch in November
- Can you imagine that, anti aging water to be on sale in November. We will certainly be drinking lots of water..see the information on my facebook account.
Sunday, May 30, 2010
kids love this, Charlie and The Chocolate Factory, Roald Dahl
Many children have already seen the movie, but that might be more incentive to read the book, and maybe they would love to have the book in their collection! Pay attention, ask them how they like the story, find out what kinds of books they like to read. My grandson loves science fiction and I encourage that, he has a collection of authors he follows. Now , I am trying to broaden his spectrum into other subjects.
Books for young early teens, I am the Cheese
Robert Cormier, is a prize winning author, and this book helps kids sort out problems, when they encounter the problems of the hero in the story! Go to the library or buy the book. I recommend trying to build a library for your children, buy them used on line. My grandchildren treasure the libraries they have been building over the years.
Get your kids to read! A Wrinkle in Time( for 9-11 year olds)
When I taught school this was one of the favorites of my 5th grade class. It was easy reading for me too! Good books, are starters to a life time of reading, so get going, and direct your children to good reading.!!
fathers day gift...Anatomy of the Spirit
Another remembered book that I will enjoy reading again, an assist in this crazy world, by helping you understand yourself, and others, and how to survive . Take a peek and see if it is to your liking.
father's day gift, Zen and the Art of Motorchycle Maintenance
This book is what got me started looking at the Seth books by Jane Roberts, and other investigations into the self. I was astonished when I read this book, many many years ago,and never forgot it.
Father's Day ...Seth Speaks
Jane Roberts, wrote a series of books back in the 1970's, she was a well known channeler. If your husband is into learning about selfhood, other dimensions of reality, or if you are...wow! These books are so enlightening, they can change your personality. These are books I treasure and re read, whenever I am looking to be re invigorated about enlightenment. They set me back on course, and help me to be far sighted.
Fathers day gift...DuPont Registry
Just one magazine, a nice coffee cup from the gift area, maybe some chocolates near the register, and he will know you love him. How can any man resist looking at nice cars, and dreaming about owning a special car!
fathers day...is he slightly techi?
if your husband likes to keep up with technology, computing, cameras, tv's, this magazine is fun, to read, and makes a nice father's day gift. Take a peek before you order it.
Ultimate Classic Cars..father's day gift!
Wow, if you can get this coffee table book for this price! Father's day gift, that most men would love!
Beatrix Potter
This is a nice collection to save for your child, after he or she finishes reading them, treasure them as a hand me down to the next generation. We all know Peter Rabbit, and the "kids" just love the stories.
Blueberries for Sal
Blueberries for SalSome childrens books that are outstanding, remain forever valuable. Be sure you get this for your baby to pre schooler, along with some of the other books, by this author. Once they start reading they will love to read it to you.
The Last Song, by Nicholas Sparks
Teenager at home? This is a must for parents of teens, and also for the teen. When I was reading this, I remembered my own 17th year,and how difficult it must have been for my mother, alone,because my Dad died young. She was with out her husband to guide her through the tough years of raising two children. We did not scream , we had some disagreements but we worked it out!
My mother was trusting, loving and caring! I learned from that to give back what she gave me, love, respect and caring for her, as did my brother. This book is a breath of fresh air for both parents and teens
My mother was trusting, loving and caring! I learned from that to give back what she gave me, love, respect and caring for her, as did my brother. This book is a breath of fresh air for both parents and teens
This book is great for teachers, musicians, and others who love music and love to learn. It sat on my book table for quite awhile before I could get into it, but then, it was wonderful. I may even read it again, and the amazing thing is that I very seldom do I re read a book, but this, I just might.
Rupert Sheldrake talks about the morphic resonance changing, and lo and behold I opened this book and the author is speaking of the change in DNA, and how it takes 50,000 years. Both men coming at the same conclusion from different perspectives.
Take a peek at the book here, and see if you might like it.
Rupert Sheldrake talks about the morphic resonance changing, and lo and behold I opened this book and the author is speaking of the change in DNA, and how it takes 50,000 years. Both men coming at the same conclusion from different perspectives.
Take a peek at the book here, and see if you might like it.
Morphic Resonance
Want to understand more about life, about telepathy, and other strange events? Think morphic resonance and Rupert Sheldrake. He is the Galileo of our time, for some thinkers, and then for others who are open to new discoveries, he is a leader in out of the box thinking....with research and studies for back up.
Go to Rupert Sheldrake in your browser to find his web site. this is someone thinking beyond the box, who has been working in this field for years. His studies point to interesting theories of what and why we are formed, and how. I know people that can see the morphic form and for those that can not there is a machine available that shows it. It is a magnetic field for those of you new to this thought.
MORPHIC RESONANCE AND MORPHIC FIELDS
An Introduction
by Rupert Sheldrake
In the hypothesis of formative causation, discussed in detail in my books A NEW SCIENCE OF LIFE and THE PRESENCE OF THE PAST, I propose that memory is inherent in nature. Most of the so-called laws of nature are more like habits.
My interest in evolutionary habits arose when I was engaged in research in developmental biology, and was reinforced by reading Charles Darwin, for whom the habits of organisms were of central importance. As Francis Huxley has pointed out, Darwin’s most famous book could more appropriately have been entitled The Origin of Habits.
Morphic fields in biology
Over the course of fifteen years of research on plant development, I came to the conclusion that for understanding the development of plants, their morphogenesis, genes and gene products are not enough. Morphogenesis also depends on organizing fields. The same arguments apply to the development of animals. Since the 1920s many developmental biologists have proposed that biological organization depends on fields, variously called biological fields, or developmental fields, or positional fields, or morphogenetic fields.
All cells come from other cells, and all cells inherit fields of organization. Genes are part of this organization. They play an essential role. But they do not explain the organization itself. Why not?
Thanks to molecular biology, we know what genes do. They enable organisms to make particular proteins. Other genes are involved in the control of protein synthesis. Identifiable genes are switched on and particular proteins made at the beginning of new developmental processes. Some of these developmental switch genes, like the Hox genes in fruit flies, worms, fish and mammals, are very similar. In evolutionary terms, they are highly conserved. But switching on genes such as these cannot in itself determine form, otherwise fruit flies would not look different from us.
Many organisms live as free cells, including many yeasts, bacteria and amoebas. Some form complex mineral skeletons, as in diatoms and radiolarians, spectacularly pictured in the nineteenth century by Ernst Haeckel. Just making the right proteins at the right times cannot explain the complex skeletons of such structures without many other forces coming into play, including the organizing activity of cell membranes and microtubules.
Ernst Haeckel Tafel_06
Most developmental biologists accept the need for a holistic or integrative conception of living organization. Otherwise biology will go on floundering, even drowning, in oceans of data, as yet more genomes are sequenced, genes are cloned and proteins are characterized.
I suggest that morphogenetic fields work by imposing patterns on otherwise random or indeterminate patterns of activity. For example they cause microtubules to crystallize in one part of the cell rather than another, even though the subunits from which they are made are present throughout the cell.
Morphogenetic fields are not fixed forever, but evolve. The fields of Afghan hounds and poodles have become different from those of their common ancestors, wolves. How are these fields inherited? I propose that that they are transmitted from past members of the species through a kind of non-local resonance, called morphic resonance.
The fields organizing the activity of the nervous system are likewise inherited through morphic resonance, conveying a collective, instinctive memory. Each individual both draws upon and contributes to the collective memory of the species. This means that new patterns of behaviour can spread more rapidly than would otherwise be possible. For example, if rats of a particular breed learn a new trick in Harvard, then rats of that breed should be able to learn the same trick faster all over the world, say in Edinburgh and Melbourne. There is already evidence from laboratory experiments (discussed in A NEW SCIENCE OF LIFE) that this actually happens.
The resonance of a brain with its own past states also helps to explain the memories of individual animals and humans. There is no need for all memories to be “stored” inside the brain.
Social groups are likewise organized by fields, as in schools of fish and flocks of birds. Human societies have memories that are transmitted through the culture of the group, and are most explicitly communicated through the ritual re-enactment of a founding story or myth, as in the Jewish Passover celebration, the Christian Holy Communion and the American thanksgiving dinner, through which the past become present through a kind of resonance with those who have performed the same rituals before.
The memory of nature
From the point of view of the hypothesis of morphic resonance, there is no need to suppose that all the laws of nature sprang into being fully formed at the moment of the Big Bang, like a kind of cosmic Napoleonic code, or that they exist in a metaphysical realm beyond time and space.
Before the general acceptance of the Big Bang theory in the 1960s, eternal laws seemed to make sense. The universe itself was thought to be eternal and evolution was confined to the biological realm. But we now live in a radically evolutionary universe.
If we want to stick to the idea of natural laws, we could say that as nature itself evolves, the laws of nature also evolve, just as human laws evolve over time. But then how would natural laws be remembered or enforced? The law metaphor is embarrassingly anthropomorphic. Habits are less human-centred. Many kinds of organisms have habits, but only humans have laws. The habits of nature depend on non-local similarity reinforcement. Through morphic resonance, the patterns of activity in self-organizing systems are influenced by similar patterns in the past, giving each species and each kind of self-organizing system a collective memory.
I believe that the natural selection of habits will play an essential part in any integrated theory of evolution, including not just biological evolution, but also physical, chemical, cosmic, social, mental and cultural evolution (as discussed in THE PRESENCE OF THE PAST ).
Habits are subject to natural selection; and the more often they are repeated, the more probable they become, other things being equal. Animals inherit the successful habits of their species as instincts. We inherit bodily, emotional, mental and cultural habits, including the habits of our languages.
Fields of the mind
Morphic fields underlie our mental activity and our perceptions, and lead to a new theory of vision, as discussed in THE SENSE OF BEING STARED AT. The existence of these fields is experimentally testable through the sense of being stared at itself. There is already much evidence that this sense really exists Papers on Staring
You can take part in a staring experiment yourself through this web site. Staring Experiments
The morphic fields of social groups connect together members of the group even when they are many miles apart, and provide channels of communication through which organisms can stay in touch at a distance. They help provide an explanation for telepathy. There is now good evidence that many species of animals are telepathic, and telepathy seems to be a normal means of animal communication, as discussed in my book DOGS THAT KNOW WHEN THEIR OWNERS ARE COMING HOME. Telepathy is normal not paranormal, natural not supernatural, and is also common between people, especially people who know each other well.
In the modern world, the commonest kind of human telepathy occurs in connection with telephone calls. More than 80% of the population say they have thought of someone for no apparent reason, who then called; or that they have known who was calling before picking up the phone in a way that seems telepathic. Controlled experiments on telephone telepathy have given repeatable positive results that are highly significant statistically, as summarized in THE SENSE OF BEING STARED AT and described in detailed technical papers which you can read on this web site. Papers on Telepathy Telepathy also occurs in connection with emails, and anyone who is interested can now test how telepathic they are in the online telepathy test. Experiments Online
The morphic fields of mental activity are not confined to the insides of our heads. They extend far beyond our brain though intention and attention. We are already familiar with the idea of fields extending beyond the material objects in which they are rooted: for example magnetic fields extend beyond the surfaces of magnets; the earth’s gravitational field extends far beyond the surface of the earth, keeping the moon in its orbit; and the fields of a cell phone stretch out far beyond the phone itself. Likewise the fields of our minds extend far beyond our brains.
February 2005
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Go to Rupert Sheldrake in your browser to find his web site. this is someone thinking beyond the box, who has been working in this field for years. His studies point to interesting theories of what and why we are formed, and how. I know people that can see the morphic form and for those that can not there is a machine available that shows it. It is a magnetic field for those of you new to this thought.
MORPHIC RESONANCE AND MORPHIC FIELDS
An Introduction
by Rupert Sheldrake
In the hypothesis of formative causation, discussed in detail in my books A NEW SCIENCE OF LIFE and THE PRESENCE OF THE PAST, I propose that memory is inherent in nature. Most of the so-called laws of nature are more like habits.
My interest in evolutionary habits arose when I was engaged in research in developmental biology, and was reinforced by reading Charles Darwin, for whom the habits of organisms were of central importance. As Francis Huxley has pointed out, Darwin’s most famous book could more appropriately have been entitled The Origin of Habits.
Morphic fields in biology
Over the course of fifteen years of research on plant development, I came to the conclusion that for understanding the development of plants, their morphogenesis, genes and gene products are not enough. Morphogenesis also depends on organizing fields. The same arguments apply to the development of animals. Since the 1920s many developmental biologists have proposed that biological organization depends on fields, variously called biological fields, or developmental fields, or positional fields, or morphogenetic fields.
All cells come from other cells, and all cells inherit fields of organization. Genes are part of this organization. They play an essential role. But they do not explain the organization itself. Why not?
Thanks to molecular biology, we know what genes do. They enable organisms to make particular proteins. Other genes are involved in the control of protein synthesis. Identifiable genes are switched on and particular proteins made at the beginning of new developmental processes. Some of these developmental switch genes, like the Hox genes in fruit flies, worms, fish and mammals, are very similar. In evolutionary terms, they are highly conserved. But switching on genes such as these cannot in itself determine form, otherwise fruit flies would not look different from us.
Many organisms live as free cells, including many yeasts, bacteria and amoebas. Some form complex mineral skeletons, as in diatoms and radiolarians, spectacularly pictured in the nineteenth century by Ernst Haeckel. Just making the right proteins at the right times cannot explain the complex skeletons of such structures without many other forces coming into play, including the organizing activity of cell membranes and microtubules.
Ernst Haeckel Tafel_06
Most developmental biologists accept the need for a holistic or integrative conception of living organization. Otherwise biology will go on floundering, even drowning, in oceans of data, as yet more genomes are sequenced, genes are cloned and proteins are characterized.
I suggest that morphogenetic fields work by imposing patterns on otherwise random or indeterminate patterns of activity. For example they cause microtubules to crystallize in one part of the cell rather than another, even though the subunits from which they are made are present throughout the cell.
Morphogenetic fields are not fixed forever, but evolve. The fields of Afghan hounds and poodles have become different from those of their common ancestors, wolves. How are these fields inherited? I propose that that they are transmitted from past members of the species through a kind of non-local resonance, called morphic resonance.
The fields organizing the activity of the nervous system are likewise inherited through morphic resonance, conveying a collective, instinctive memory. Each individual both draws upon and contributes to the collective memory of the species. This means that new patterns of behaviour can spread more rapidly than would otherwise be possible. For example, if rats of a particular breed learn a new trick in Harvard, then rats of that breed should be able to learn the same trick faster all over the world, say in Edinburgh and Melbourne. There is already evidence from laboratory experiments (discussed in A NEW SCIENCE OF LIFE) that this actually happens.
The resonance of a brain with its own past states also helps to explain the memories of individual animals and humans. There is no need for all memories to be “stored” inside the brain.
Social groups are likewise organized by fields, as in schools of fish and flocks of birds. Human societies have memories that are transmitted through the culture of the group, and are most explicitly communicated through the ritual re-enactment of a founding story or myth, as in the Jewish Passover celebration, the Christian Holy Communion and the American thanksgiving dinner, through which the past become present through a kind of resonance with those who have performed the same rituals before.
The memory of nature
From the point of view of the hypothesis of morphic resonance, there is no need to suppose that all the laws of nature sprang into being fully formed at the moment of the Big Bang, like a kind of cosmic Napoleonic code, or that they exist in a metaphysical realm beyond time and space.
Before the general acceptance of the Big Bang theory in the 1960s, eternal laws seemed to make sense. The universe itself was thought to be eternal and evolution was confined to the biological realm. But we now live in a radically evolutionary universe.
If we want to stick to the idea of natural laws, we could say that as nature itself evolves, the laws of nature also evolve, just as human laws evolve over time. But then how would natural laws be remembered or enforced? The law metaphor is embarrassingly anthropomorphic. Habits are less human-centred. Many kinds of organisms have habits, but only humans have laws. The habits of nature depend on non-local similarity reinforcement. Through morphic resonance, the patterns of activity in self-organizing systems are influenced by similar patterns in the past, giving each species and each kind of self-organizing system a collective memory.
I believe that the natural selection of habits will play an essential part in any integrated theory of evolution, including not just biological evolution, but also physical, chemical, cosmic, social, mental and cultural evolution (as discussed in THE PRESENCE OF THE PAST ).
Habits are subject to natural selection; and the more often they are repeated, the more probable they become, other things being equal. Animals inherit the successful habits of their species as instincts. We inherit bodily, emotional, mental and cultural habits, including the habits of our languages.
Fields of the mind
Morphic fields underlie our mental activity and our perceptions, and lead to a new theory of vision, as discussed in THE SENSE OF BEING STARED AT. The existence of these fields is experimentally testable through the sense of being stared at itself. There is already much evidence that this sense really exists Papers on Staring
You can take part in a staring experiment yourself through this web site. Staring Experiments
The morphic fields of social groups connect together members of the group even when they are many miles apart, and provide channels of communication through which organisms can stay in touch at a distance. They help provide an explanation for telepathy. There is now good evidence that many species of animals are telepathic, and telepathy seems to be a normal means of animal communication, as discussed in my book DOGS THAT KNOW WHEN THEIR OWNERS ARE COMING HOME. Telepathy is normal not paranormal, natural not supernatural, and is also common between people, especially people who know each other well.
In the modern world, the commonest kind of human telepathy occurs in connection with telephone calls. More than 80% of the population say they have thought of someone for no apparent reason, who then called; or that they have known who was calling before picking up the phone in a way that seems telepathic. Controlled experiments on telephone telepathy have given repeatable positive results that are highly significant statistically, as summarized in THE SENSE OF BEING STARED AT and described in detailed technical papers which you can read on this web site. Papers on Telepathy Telepathy also occurs in connection with emails, and anyone who is interested can now test how telepathic they are in the online telepathy test. Experiments Online
The morphic fields of mental activity are not confined to the insides of our heads. They extend far beyond our brain though intention and attention. We are already familiar with the idea of fields extending beyond the material objects in which they are rooted: for example magnetic fields extend beyond the surfaces of magnets; the earth’s gravitational field extends far beyond the surface of the earth, keeping the moon in its orbit; and the fields of a cell phone stretch out far beyond the phone itself. Likewise the fields of our minds extend far beyond our brains.
February 2005
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"Cool" June Christy - Taking A Chance On Love
June Christy, don't miss this wonderful Jazz singer, here are some of her best songs, you can listen to samples. I had You Tube with ..A Nightingale sang in Berkley Square but, it refused to follow me, so you can find that there.